Apocalyptic Virus Or Not? - Page 107

alexora · 13th April 2020, 20:33

Many are saying that there have been a great many deaths from CV-19 that are not being recorded among the official death tally because they did not occur within a hospital.

Coronavirus: Thirteen die at Stanley care home

Thirteen residents of a County Durham care home have now died after displaying symptoms of coronavirus.

Managers at Stanley Park care home in Stanley said they were "devastated" by the deaths.

The first death was in late March with the latest confirmed by home operator Care UK on Monday.

It has not been disclosed how many other residents at the 72-bed home are ill. One resident who tested positive for the virus is in hospital.

Five deaths were announced overnight on Sunday before the 13th was later reported on Monday.

Care UK said the latest resident to die had been living in the home and had some symptoms that could indicate Covid-19, though no test had been carried out.

Care UK regional director Karen Morrison said: "We are completely devastated that this many residents have lost their lives to what we believe to be Covid-19.

"My heart goes out to the families and friends of residents who have passed away over the past few days. We are all thinking of them at this difficult time and send our condolences and best wishes.

"The team at the home continue to be absolutely amazing and I cannot thank them enough.

"Despite all that has happened, they continue to deliver the very best care in a kind and professional way.

"They have had all the necessary PPE and have been using it meticulously ever since the first case was seen at the end of last month."

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-52268841

jenny48549 · 13th April 2020, 21:38

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Originally Posted by Johnny Cage

I'm still kind of waiting for people to be truly informed about how long this shit will last. Well into 2021. And we will go through several more lockdown type periods until then.

Until there is a safe effective vaccine and 12 months would be record time at this point. Also you have to make sure everyone gets it to completely stop the spread of the virus. Right now that's all we can hope for as for as the earliest time.

There are other methods that are being working on to possibly reduce the most severe effects of the virus so that the number of people needing to be hospitalized because of it is reduced to a manageable level and to make other therapies available to treat people more effectively so they has less of a chance of dying. Those types of advances would reduce the need for a total lockdown but that's not going to happen tomorrow either.

chokes999 · 13th April 2020, 21:42

Over nearly three weeks from Feb. 26 to March 16, the number of confirmed coronavirus cases in the United States grew from 15 to 4,226. Since then, more than half a million Americans have tested positive for the virus and authorities say hundreds of thousands more are likely infected.

“We have it totally under control,” Trump said on CNBC. “It’s one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It’s going to be just fine.” 'We're winning the battle, we're winning the war'. All 50 states are now under a major disaster declaration amid the CCP virus pandemic.

The epidemiologists knew. The public health officials knew. The ones who didn’t were the ones with their heads up their asses who didn’t want to listen to those who knew. Politicians lie like most people breathe.

The government literally had a playbook developed by previous administrations. It was ignored or never read, just like the user manual for your vacuum cleaner.

Lando Griffin · 13th April 2020, 23:03

I vote this thread be locked, at least for a few days. It's gotten way too political and way too mean spirited to be of any use.

Lonewolf · 13th April 2020, 23:18

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Originally Posted by Lando Griffin

I vote this thread be locked, at least for a few days. It's gotten way too political and way too mean spirited to be of any use.

Would only do that as a last resort. IMO, it's important to keep the conversation going, for informational purposes, to maybe let us see what it's like on the front lines through the eyes of those at or near ground zero, and occasionally, a slight amount of venting.

So far, in playing whack-a-mole with posts that wander off the reservation, nothing has gotten out of hand for very long, as I'm here several times per day.

This is all new for all of us... Coronavirus, life as we know it, modding the discussions thereof... all of it. So we're all bound to make mistakes once in a while, as emotions briefly get the best of us... it's what makes us human. The water will find its own level eventually, as long as there's a chef here to keep an eye on the pot as it simmers.

alexora · 13th April 2020, 23:20

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Originally Posted by Lando Griffin

I vote this thread be locked, at least for a few days. It's gotten way too political and way too mean spirited to be of any use.

Members like you and I have absolutely no say (let alone a vote) on what threads get to be shut down.

This particular one deals with a life or death situation that potentially affects each and every one of us, and our loved ones.

It falls to the political leaders of each nation, worldwide, to decide what steps should be undertaken in order to save us from oblivion.

Only a lack of reason would encourage our Planet to ignore the CV-19 threat and deny it to be discussed here, and with these discussion, only a short sighted person would demand no discourse over the actions of our leaders, or lack thereof, be a valid part of it.

Us Planet Suzians are all over the world, and we all face this great threat: the only thing that is different is how our leaders decide to go about taking care of the problem.

Forbidding such discussions from taking place during this pandemic would be an obtuse course of action.

Lonewolf · 13th April 2020, 23:40

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Originally Posted by alexora

Members like you and I have absolutely no say (let alone a vote) on what threads get to be shut down.

This particular one deals with a life or death situation that potentially affects each and every one of us, and our loved ones.

It falls to the political leaders of each nation, worldwide, to decide what steps should be undertaken in order to save us from oblivion.

Only a lack of reason would encourage our Planet to ignore the CV-19 threat and deny it to be discussed here, and with these discussion, only a short sighted person would demand no discourse over the actions of our leaders, or lack thereof, be a valid part of it.

Us Planet Suzians are all over the world, and we all face this great threat: the only thing that is different is how our leaders decide to go about taking care of the problem.

Forbidding such discussions from taking place during this pandemic would be an obtuse course of action.

If I can expand on this a little...

We've never experienced anything like this on a planetary scale... yes, there have been moments throughout history (WW I, WW II, Cuban Missile Crisis, et. al.) where situations involved other countries, and could have spread to many more, but this is something which is affecting nearly every country on earth, in varying degrees. As such, politicians are the ones making the decisions as to how to combat this, and what steps we need to take.

So politicians, and indeed, heads of state, are the 800 lb. Gorillas on the couches in the various COVID-19 living rooms. The closest we've seen, as far as approaches on a planetary scale, are sci-fi movies where earth is attacked by an evil species... which... this can sort of be seen as.

It's a discussion which needs to take place, occasional slip ups aside. To talk about, process, and digest the components of the virus, and how we deal with it, without acknowledging and even occasionally questioning the political spectre, is like trying to use the alphabet without using vowels.

And how we handle the discourse, and knowing where the line is drawn, is a testament to our civility and maturity. Overall, I'm pretty proud of everyone here for properly framing the picture and exchanging points of view.

pearldiver6 · 14th April 2020, 00:54

The issues with nursing home residents says a lot about this virus and the state of nursing homes. One in my area is a "national leader" if you will. Certainly older folks are more susceptible, and being in my 60's I am also of the over 50 relatively high risk group. In Texas, at least where I am, tp fer me bunghole, a la Beavis and Butthead, is impossible to find, same as most other paper products. As a sidebar, consider reading the book by Rose George "The Big Necessity" if I remember the title correctly. Oddly, I think, ammo is also a memory for the most part. The local grocery stores are erecting plastic barriers at the checkout stands, masks and the like, some have em some don't. I saw in an email from Dave Mustaine's Megadeth website, if you bought a recent recording as a bonus, you would get a facemask with their mascot printed on the front. They were out of stock.

That I actually might wear with a smile. For Megadeth fans, when I purchased their Dystopia cd at Target, there was a only-that-store offer for a vinyl copy of the same recording, you didn't even have to pay postage! That was bangin!

jenny48549 · 14th April 2020, 01:45

Some possible positive news on the testing front that happens to involve my daughter's alma mater.

New Rutgers Saliva Test for Coronavirus Gets FDA Approval

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https://www.rutgers.edu/news/new-rutgers-saliva-test-coronavirus-gets-fda-approval

allworkboy · 14th April 2020, 02:04

13th April 2020, 20:33	#1061
alexora Walking on the Moon Beyond Redemption Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 30,972 Thanks: 163,452 Thanked 152,917 Times in 28,697 Posts	Many are saying that there have been a great many deaths from CV-19 that are not being recorded among the official death tally because they did not occur within a hospital. Coronavirus: Thirteen die at Stanley care home Thirteen residents of a County Durham care home have now died after displaying symptoms of coronavirus. Managers at Stanley Park care home in Stanley said they were "devastated" by the deaths. The first death was in late March with the latest confirmed by home operator Care UK on Monday. It has not been disclosed how many other residents at the 72-bed home are ill. One resident who tested positive for the virus is in hospital. Five deaths were announced overnight on Sunday before the 13th was later reported on Monday. Care UK said the latest resident to die had been living in the home and had some symptoms that could indicate Covid-19, though no test had been carried out. Care UK regional director Karen Morrison said: "We are completely devastated that this many residents have lost their lives to what we believe to be Covid-19. "My heart goes out to the families and friends of residents who have passed away over the past few days. We are all thinking of them at this difficult time and send our condolences and best wishes. "The team at the home continue to be absolutely amazing and I cannot thank them enough. "Despite all that has happened, they continue to deliver the very best care in a kind and professional way. "They have had all the necessary PPE and have been using it meticulously ever since the first case was seen at the end of last month." Source: Code: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-52268841 __________________ SOME OF MY CONTENT POSTS ARE DOWN: FEEL FREE TO CONTACT ME AND I'LL RE-UPLOAD THEM Last edited by alexora; 13th April 2020 at 20:52.

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jenny48549 *Mobsterette and Mistress of Mayhem* Postaholic Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Here and there and probably somewhere else....... Posts: 6,609 Thanks: 37,293 Thanked 44,715 Times in 5,796 Posts	Some possible positive news on the testing front that happens to involve my daughter's alma mater. New Rutgers Saliva Test for Coronavirus Gets FDA Approval Code: https://www.rutgers.edu/news/new-rutgers-saliva-test-coronavirus-gets-fda-approval __________________ Please DO NOT post mirrors to my posts.

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chokes999 Registered User Addicted Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 762 Thanks: 2,930 Thanked 1,738 Times in 642 Posts	Over nearly three weeks from Feb. 26 to March 16, the number of confirmed coronavirus cases in the United States grew from 15 to 4,226. Since then, more than half a million Americans have tested positive for the virus and authorities say hundreds of thousands more are likely infected. “We have it totally under control,” Trump said on CNBC. “It’s one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It’s going to be just fine.” 'We're winning the battle, we're winning the war'. All 50 states are now under a major disaster declaration amid the CCP virus pandemic. The epidemiologists knew. The public health officials knew. The ones who didn’t were the ones with their heads up their asses who didn’t want to listen to those who knew. Politicians lie like most people breathe. The government literally had a playbook developed by previous administrations. It was ignored or never read, just like the user manual for your vacuum cleaner.

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pearldiver6 Registered User Addicted Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 736 Thanks: 1,689 Thanked 1,488 Times in 529 Posts	The issues with nursing home residents says a lot about this virus and the state of nursing homes. One in my area is a "national leader" if you will. Certainly older folks are more susceptible, and being in my 60's I am also of the over 50 relatively high risk group. In Texas, at least where I am, tp fer me bunghole, a la Beavis and Butthead, is impossible to find, same as most other paper products. As a sidebar, consider reading the book by Rose George "The Big Necessity" if I remember the title correctly. Oddly, I think, ammo is also a memory for the most part. The local grocery stores are erecting plastic barriers at the checkout stands, masks and the like, some have em some don't. I saw in an email from Dave Mustaine's Megadeth website, if you bought a recent recording as a bonus, you would get a facemask with their mascot printed on the front. They were out of stock. That I actually might wear with a smile. For Megadeth fans, when I purchased their Dystopia cd at Target, there was a only-that-store offer for a vinyl copy of the same recording, you didn't even have to pay postage! That was bangin!

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